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Sergio Leoni, the man that brought you

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fistful full of dollars and for a few

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dollars more and the good the bad and

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the ugly now brings you his greatest

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movie. Duck you sucker. I know that was

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I realized that the guy who directed everything

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the other the other three movies was

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named Leon.

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>> Party. Go with the Chak.

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>> America evening. interview Leone 1 first

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>> one moment.

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Good.

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Cinema for me is above all one

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immense show

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where the facts of the

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disguised life.

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It is a vehicle for recounting experiences

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own, historical experiences, experiences

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psychological,

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always through the fairy tale, through

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the myth, through the spectacle.

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I was born in cinema, so I live by it

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cinema, here, I read cinema, I see cinema,

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for me cinema and lives, vice versa.

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How can you forget the world

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of infancy and childhood?

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All my films are permeated with

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these sensations. From Fist of Dollars

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once upon a time there was the West. After all, mine

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movie

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the world judged by children, if you will.

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See those columns up there at the end

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of the staircase? Once upon a time there were no and

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instead of columns there were us,

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10-12 year old boys with big ones

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shovels and we came down to Taboca at 50-60

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km/h. A blue avalanche that he found

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then some unwanted guests.

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Neighborhood was teeming with Germans.

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We are in 4245.

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It's my first west.

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I was once asked about in what sense

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were Leon's films personal. You know,

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he's making genre films, westerns,

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gangster, etc. I said they're deeply

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personal three reasons. Firstly, there

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about a young child who largely grew up

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who remembered going to see Hollywood

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movies in the 1930s during the eror of

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Mussolini.

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America was seen as a model of freedom

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and modernity. Here was a completely

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different thing. You could see this

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other world and this young child growing

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up in Trustovery loved those fairy

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tales. They're autobiographical secondly

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because in 19434

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after the solono landings, the American

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troops came north and came to Rome.

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And Leoni said it came as a real shock

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to meet real life Americans for the

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first time with these GI who chased our

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women, who sold cigarettes on the black

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market who behaved like soldiers behave.

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I couldn't see in them anything of those

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characters I'd seen on the screen. The

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disillusionment

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of of someone in their teens meeting

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real life Americans. And the third way

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in which they autobiographical is his

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own formation as a filmmaker between 19

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and 1959 where he works as an assistant

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director on 35 movies.

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I can say born almost on a plato

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cinematic because my mother was

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young actress with Galli

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when I was a child. My father did

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the last film after many years of absence

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cause to fascism, because it was a knot

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anti-fascist and therefore also a

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political persecuted.

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Francesca's favorite director

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Bertini who was the movie star

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Italian and for a few years the star of

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world cinema. Not only did he direct

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the one that would later become his

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wife, says Valeran, also great

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silent film diva, but when the caliano

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is starting to go into crisis, Leo,

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Vincenzo Leone, Roberto Roberti directs

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some of the most spectacular films of C

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Italian of the 1920s, like Fra Diavolo

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Vincenzo Leone wanted to make a cinema

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popular, but that it reached everyone and that

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pit in qualche modo nobilitato.

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Insomma, io ho impresses Sergio

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abbia veramente batteto

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la strada del padre.

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in tears, it was when he spoke of his

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father.

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There was a film festival on the

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old Italian films that took place and

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we come to inform him that there is a film

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of his father who moves to another

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room. He left the room, he see the

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his father's film. He didn't want to speak

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afterwards, he left in alarm.

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>> I was born, in fact, with frustration

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my father not to do what he wanted

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to do, but experiencing cinema from the morning

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in the evening, here, talking about cinema with

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my father, then he vented to me

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and then initially, up to 14

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years I really had an aversion

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total for this environment and for this

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profession.

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But instead when my father took the

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decision to withdraw precisely in this

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native village, she was Lombardi's sister

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in Irpini, it came to me strangely

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a great desire to continue

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what dad did. So yes

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it poured right onto me. This

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almost an obligation to continue.

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his own.

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he understood that this path of the film

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epic, the film about the hero

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the absolute protagonist was his

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I want to unpack the genre a bit, but yes

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an ironic film about the genre.

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The character is a playboy.

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>> And what is this perfume? Rose, granddaughter

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mine. Prodi is also the island of roses and

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delle belle donne a quel che vedo.

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>> Dalle foto di scena che abbiamo, vediamo

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che lui è già il padrone del set.

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Ho tentato proprio il genere commedia

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epica. I think it was always a genre

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first aspect. So I don't think he was

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truly trying to get

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at the bottom of the human heart. He was

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trying to get at the bottom of genre

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archetypes that he was interested in.

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from. And of course the beneficiary of

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Leoni more than any of my generation was

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the very next generation that came up

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after my generation which was which

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who I think it was separated birth from

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Sergio and uh has benefited profoundly

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from Sergio's influence

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in Kill Bill or even inlorious bastards

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and Jango and Chain. It's always genre

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Genre first is what's important.

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And uh I do believe that was where Leoni

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was coming from in especially in his

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western.

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My agent called me and said, "Um, I

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didn't want you to do a western in

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Italy." And I said, I don't know. I get

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a month off.

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he was a master again and then he had

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played the second actor for many years

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of a Western series called Rai.

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these little episodes were called The Sheep

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black, he didn't speak, he didn't say anything

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word.

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I did the screenplay in 15 days

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and naturally it started from the fact that

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I had seen Jojimbo.

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injimbo was the fact that he had been caught

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from an American novella from a series

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yellow.

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the idea

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in his samurai and therefore it came to me

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just immediately the idea of

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bring this very thing back home

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this idea.

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I said this is your jimbo. That's that's

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a picture I love. It's a great idea to

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do it western uh from that story.

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I said this is either going to really

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work well or it's just going to be

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turned out he was very charming guy and we

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got along great. Even though I didn't

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speak any Italian, he didn't speak any

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English.

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>> The thing that struck me about this boy

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it was indolence.

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a born lazy man, the cat man, that is

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such a lanky gait, almost

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while sleeping he walked.

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moment of the thing he bought one

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speed and its own dynamics

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there is a definite charm to it

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character.

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American cinema, well, maybe it wouldn't

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never became Clint.

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it takes away that divine aspect that he has

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made it absolutely unlikely.

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>> Behold, it makes him a God among men.

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he managed to transfer the indolence

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Roman inside Clintood's body

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in attitudes, in the way of doing things,

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that sly being, but in the same

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time awake, smart, asshole, whatever

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he says to Rome.

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>> Hello,

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greetings

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>> Chunks. First

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>> Montaldo,

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>> here I am

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Jolly Film. by Papi Colombo. I was there

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because I had to make the first film with

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them, my debut in the room where I

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two producers had their own studio.

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I hear noises,

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noises and voices. At a certain point I felt

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do p here

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that arrive.

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It was Mr. Sergio Legione who

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told the two producers about the film with

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the shootings. It was impressive.

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wasing

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opening scene with the music and the

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whistle.

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unique and rare in any kind of movie

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that I have seen.

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I was still a student and never really

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thought about getting into the film

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industry. I can say that actually is one

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of the element that draws me into

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learning how to make movie and became a

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director.

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As an idea it was Arlecchino serves the two

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masters.

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[Music]

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A character who puts himself at the center of

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two gangs, that's it.

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And it practically sells for one

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to the other without the two knowing it,

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putting them cone

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[Musica]

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[Musica]

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we love

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what

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succeed

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anyore in a way until

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came toevive it in his own vernacular

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and very grateful all of us my whole

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generation very grateful to him because

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we were raised on on western movies

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Howard Hawks and Ral Walsh and John Ford

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and even who made a kind of western

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Eastern movie uh we were raised on this

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so it was it was with tremendous

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excitement

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[Musica]

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Nei film di Ford, quando un attore apre

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la finestra e è sempre per guardare

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l'immenso futuro che c'è davanti. E nei

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when they open the window they have

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only terror and fear of receiving

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a ball between the eyes.

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[Music]

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in Florence.

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On Friday I think he made 600,000 lire,

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Saturday 800,

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Sunday 1 million3 and Monday there

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he expected in case of 100,000 lire he did

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1 and a half million. The myth had arrived

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in Rome.

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[Music]

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And then all of a sudden in variety

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they'd say westerns are over except

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there's one thing little western just

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doing real well there and fistful of

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dollars featuring clint eastwood and I

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thought am I in this it wasn't that it

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is it was called magnificent striner

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the original title of wasay the

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magnificent

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and if you

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rec

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magnificent and magnificent stranger

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which second title it was only in

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postuction that they title tollars

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man with me

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with a dead man

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see if that's tru

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but what le did in the clint eastward

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pictures was very different from all of

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them and a lot of it had to do with the

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landscape

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You immediately knew. I mean, I knew

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that I wasn't in the American West.

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But um I just remember thinking this is

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really interesting. It says it's a

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western but it doesn't feel like an

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American western. Was it showed a world

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of heroes and demons?

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Um and at the same time as it shows such

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iconic

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uh symbols of good and evil, it also

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showed them with nuance

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so that good definitely had evil in him

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and evil had

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[Applauso]

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They were characters that were

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completely out of the imagination. They

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much bigger than they were got to say

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cartoons.

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He was aware of comic books. can speak

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for him again, but I look at it and I

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go, "Ok, you know, he he's part of my

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tribe, you know, and and I'm part of his

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[Applauso]

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leav and cleap looks like a cartoon." I

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only use the word cartoony as

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take a look how each frame wasil edit

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>> e per me il west è soprattutto favola e

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fantasia.

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Ci sono personaggi storici, ma nello

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stesso tempo legati al mito, alla

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leggenda, alla favola.

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[Musica]

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The one

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specific memory that I have from

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watching good the band the

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is the opening shot.

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So we're sitting in the movie theater.

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The movie just started. You see desert

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or whatever you see in the opening shot.

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And then Almud's face steps into the

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frame

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and we see that.

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Then my stepdad who's Kurt who's sitting

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next to me go

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well that guy is definitely the ugly.

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[Musica]

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Robert um one of the ways that we bonded

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as collaborators came when when he asked

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me there any movies that I wanted to

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watch to warm up to to uh um to do in

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city. I chose the good, the bad and the

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ugly.

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[Musica]

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[Applauso]

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[Musica]

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sitt next to each other watching it and

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and we were elboing each other because

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it was like so much of what we both

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wanted and he was just saying things

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like I forgot that part I forgot how

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great that was you know we were like a

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couple of little boys.

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[Musica]

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[Applauso]

407
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There is an aspect of through his

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casting and I think through my casting

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we try to create a new mythology or a

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new mythos as far as those actors are

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concerned.

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[Applauso]

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[Musica]

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He's like the best character. He's one

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of the best characters in any movie

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ever. He's obviously the best character,

417
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you know, and it's

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I think Eli Wall is one of the great

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comedic performances of all time. I'm

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like in the top three of comedy

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performances. the comic in a way in the

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manner of comedy delarte very European

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uh specifically

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and as it's been said so often they were

425
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oper

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that he made with um with Clint and I

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think that's just very very important

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the you know to have a sense of humor

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about this because if he didn't have a

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sense of humor about this he he would

431
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have made his films

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a much more conservative western

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American style but he just pulled out

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all the stops how much you with

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how much

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000

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that's right000

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yeah 000

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[Risate]

440
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you for I hope you end up in a graveyard

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I was making a movie in California and

442
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they said there's a Italian director

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wants you to make a movie I said what

444
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kind of movie they said spagetti western

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I said that's like Hawaiian pizza I

446
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never heard of that

447
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they introduced me to

448
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and he said I want

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my latest film the good, the bad and the

450
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bad,

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that we can

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define a film

453
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western, epic, picaresque, because it's there

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story of three magnificent

455
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and nice scoundrels

456
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placed in the context of the war of

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secession.

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[Music]

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go across this bridge and the bridge is

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supposed to explode.

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[Music]

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This is my third movie. They're going to

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I give a big explosion on the bridge. Well

464
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careful.

465
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They worked for months to build a bridge

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with a Spanish captain in the army who

467
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put the dynamite

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and they put up three one over there

469
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close to the bridges slow motion. and

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one over here and one inch where we're

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going to be and they wanted me to be

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back just a little bit but standing up

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and I said you know I don't think I'm

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going to be back just a little bit I

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think I'm going to be back a lot

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[Musica]

477
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so I'm going to go up on top of the hill

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say well I'm coming up on the hill to

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and I said ok so we went up there

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and the man the Italian

481
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did all the special effects. He said to

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the Spanish captain, "It is a great

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army. You shall blow up the bridge. You

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just put these two wires together. When

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I say fire, go."

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[Musica]

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And one of his assistants came over and

488
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said, "Where do you want me to stay?

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Where do I go? You tell me and special

490
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effects man via.

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[Musica]

492
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We went off this explosion, this huge

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explosion and I said to W I said well

494
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probably didn't even have the camera

495
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joking.

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All of a sudden I saw down the road and

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his eyes at fire they didn't have the

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chemistry. Nobody knew they have action.

499
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I could hear him yelling but I couldn't

500
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understand him in any language.

501
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He was he was furious. Get I want to

502
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kill him. I want to kill him.

503
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The man as soon as that happened got in

504
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the jeep and drove away. He ran away.

505
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the Spanish army who had furnished the

506
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explosives and everything they felt so

507
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bad abouting it go off early that they

508
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had they prom to rebuild it so we came

509
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back in days and even thenint and I up

510
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on the

511
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[Music]

512
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had a lot of nerve a lot of the

513
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would try people would be afraid to try

514
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,960
with so much

515
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and enthusiasm

516
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and he had this obsession with taking us

517
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behind basically, that is, it was

518
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It's really a passion to have us

519
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around and the feeling that we are family

520
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we were something above all the

521
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rest.

522
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>> I have memories from really long ago

523
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childish, so I have flashes.

524
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I only remember these deserted lands

525
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,960
dusty where there were no children,

526
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,039
they were adults only, we had to stay in

527
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silence because he turned around. In short, for

528
00:30:26,679 --> 00:30:29,190
a child was a very boring thing.

529
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[Music]

530
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But look at some beautiful memories, I must

531
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,960
say, why then imagine that for

532
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a child be carried on a anyway

533
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,720
set is already a fantastic game, but it's the

534
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the greatest joy was being able to dress up

535
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and be part of the extras.

536
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,440
>> He was very attached to his family,

537
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,159
a lot. Staying at home for many months first

538
00:30:54,159 --> 00:30:57,039
of turning a lot nice, I saw

539
00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:58,760
a little about the relationships between him, his wife and his

540
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,919
children. And in love with his two daughters

541
00:31:01,919 --> 00:31:04,880
Andrea, of his wife Carla.

542
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,519
It was a beautiful family, very beautiful.

543
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The people who made up the troop of

544
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,279
dads were people who lived anyway

545
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often not at home. they lived, in the sense

546
00:31:16,919 --> 00:31:18,919
who frequented our house a lot,

547
00:31:18,919 --> 00:31:20,760
they were friends, so he was never there

548
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,080
an impact of being in a place

549
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,320
foreign, it was a familiar place.

550
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[Music]

551
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For me it was a great game, a good one

552
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,639
pleasant trip and way for everyone to be

553
00:31:33,639 --> 00:31:35,360
together on holiday, which was a holiday

554
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,840
completamente diversa per tutte le

555
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,519
vacanze che facevano i miei amici, che

556
00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:40,919
ovviamente avevano delle vite più, come

557
00:31:40,919 --> 00:31:45,740
dire, tranquille, più normali.

558
00:31:45,740 --> 00:31:57,679
[Musica]

559
00:31:57,679 --> 00:32:00,000
In Italy, there's no West, there's no

560
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,960
frontier, there's no bandits, there's no

561
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,440
Indians, there's no Gold Rush. So, the

562
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,760
impetus for making these films isn't

563
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,960
history, it's cinema. And whereas the

564
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,799
American Western is a myth, the Italian

565
00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:19,880
western is a myth about a myth. For me,

566
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,639
I guess I would place the films right on

567
00:32:21,639 --> 00:32:25,159
the dividing line between

568
00:32:25,159 --> 00:32:26,919
a few different lineages. Italian

569
00:32:26,919 --> 00:32:32,080
comedy, uh the ancient spectacle epics

570
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,120
of the Italian epics of the ancient

571
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,679
world and uh really a pure modernism,

572
00:32:38,679 --> 00:32:42,399
cinematic modernism.

573
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,120
I believe they are the beginning of

574
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,440
modern cinema. There's new Hollywood

575
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,360
cinema. There's classic cinema. And I

576
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,960
think right in between, right where

577
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,480
classic cinema ends and where New

578
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:07,320
Hollywood starts are the dollar trilogy.

579
00:33:09,970 --> 00:33:13,159
[Musica]

580
00:33:13,159 --> 00:33:15,639
He called it America. He called the

581
00:33:15,639 --> 00:33:17,840
American West.

582
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,880
It was a mythic American West that never

583
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,880
existed.

584
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,880
He used the amazing stone configurations

585
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,240
of Spain and to create a world that just

586
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,660
of these expansions.

587
00:33:35,660 --> 00:33:38,809
[Music]

588
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,200
I think that all his scapes, all of his

589
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,000
um locations, whether it was in Al

590
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,279
Maria, all the famous locations that

591
00:33:48,279 --> 00:33:50,880
Leona used for his his westerns, it

592
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,320
looked like America very very much.

593
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,320
in Libération around thirty years ago

594
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,880
years ago there had been a questionnaire

595
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,399
was placed at I don't know 200

596
00:34:09,399 --> 00:34:11,320
directors something like that and the

597
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,119
question was why are you turning

598
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:14,839
one answer stood out to me, it was the one

599
00:34:14,839 --> 00:34:17,040
by David Lych who had responded for

600
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,560
create universes and see if that

601
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,960
works. And I find that Sergio Leon

602
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,280
creates a universe and

603
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:39,920
[Music]

604
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,679
the good, the bad and the ugly the full

605
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:46,879
of dollars. These are journeys.

606
00:34:46,879 --> 00:34:49,240
These are heroes.

607
00:34:49,240 --> 00:34:51,599
is epic in movie not just the the

608
00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:54,079
shootouts and the battle scenes but the

609
00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:57,520
moments in between.

610
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,320
Those are the types of things that that

611
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,440
only cinema can do that only a director

612
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,119
can bring to bear on the canvas. They

613
00:35:08,119 --> 00:35:09,960
can't be communicated in script form.

614
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,280
can't really be communicated in any

615
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,520
other form I think in the same way

616
00:35:17,980 --> 00:35:33,010
[Musica]

617
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,320
I think he was one of those filmmakers

618
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,440
that sort of demonstrate to me in a very

619
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,110
kind of loud

620
00:35:41,110 --> 00:35:47,549
[Musica]

621
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:49,800
The bad and the ugly. That was the

622
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,119
firstly only film I saw. Um, and I don't

623
00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:53,760
think I had any, you know, I was a kid,

624
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,040
but I don't think I had any conception.

625
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,640
I was seeing a movie that had been done,

626
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,040
you know, a decade or two decades or

627
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,440
even three decades before I was seeing

628
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,280
it. just felt like I was seen something

629
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,160
completely new and like I said timeless

630
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,470
and contemporary.

631
00:36:07,470 --> 00:36:19,010
[Musica]

632
00:36:19,010 --> 00:36:20,300
[Applauso]

633
00:36:20,300 --> 00:36:26,000
[Musica]

634
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,520
[Applauso]

635
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:34,880
show the end of it which is one big long

636
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,880
simply standing

637
00:36:38,270 --> 00:36:46,710
[Musica]

638
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,000
เ

639
00:36:59,410 --> 00:37:18,599
[Musica]

640
00:37:18,599 --> 00:37:23,760
And the camera is the is the hero

641
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,680
because it's spinning. It's moving

642
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,440
around and around and around and the

643
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,319
music if you're alive and you see that

644
00:37:32,319 --> 00:37:34,730
your pulse is counting.

645
00:37:34,730 --> 00:37:37,869
[Musica]

646
00:37:39,950 --> 00:37:43,110
[Musica]

647
00:37:52,730 --> 00:37:58,280
[Musica]

648
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,800
Sag

649
00:38:04,839 --> 00:38:09,040
one gunot all their guns and the right

650
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,720
people drop dead.

651
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,319
Most adventure movies that would have

652
00:38:28,319 --> 00:38:30,720
been an endless scene where they were

653
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:32,839
all hunting each other and wounding each

654
00:38:32,839 --> 00:38:35,280
other and and talking to each other

655
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,720
talking and talking and talking and

656
00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:39,520
talking. Moroni solved this this

657
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,599
complicated dramatic problem.

658
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,519
[Music]

659
00:38:55,210 --> 00:39:08,240
[Music]

660
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:10,319
here to work

661
00:39:10,319 --> 00:39:13,960
à la recherche

662
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,760
Mondar filmp

663
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,800
head down [ __ ]

664
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,400
>> But dad had some points of reference

665
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:27,480
from which he would never deviate.

666
00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:31,839
>> You could have told him that the singer was there

667
00:39:31,839 --> 00:39:34,240
coolest in the world. Ah, he says yes, maybe

668
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:35,680
gli facciamo fare una canzone la nonna

669
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,520
If you don't know, it will be no if we discuss it.

670
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,240
I remember that when I made my

671
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:46,359
first film for dollar I didn't want

672
00:39:46,359 --> 00:39:48,599
because I didn't know him I was

673
00:39:48,599 --> 00:39:51,800
accustomed to working with our musician

674
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,880
and we met the day after

675
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,240
because they wanted to make us

676
00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:58,640
meet

677
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,240
and we are

678
00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:02,920
now

679
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:07,960
I think we need to work my friend

680
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,280
and we

681
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,160
Credo che a certo point abbiano

682
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,119
find a total symbiosis.

683
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,880
Papa and Eno stanno lavorando al testo di

684
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,040
by Giula Testa. Ennio begins to do

685
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,599
some notes and dad says "Yes, but here

686
00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:34,280
make them a little sweeter for me."

687
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,000
Extend it, this one is sweeter, it's true

688
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,640
something for kids.

689
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,680
Let's say that there really was one

690
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,200
all-round collaboration, that is la la

691
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,359
they actually gave birth together.

692
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,480
That's fine, enough, enough, enough. Go

693
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,160
okay, okay, okay. This this is

694
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,480
the perfect thing how it works.

695
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,240
>> One's memory of Sergio is when

696
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:09,760
we were in third grade.

697
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,560
Then he disappeared because at the fourth he

698
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,960
changed school. I have seen after many

699
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,599
years that I will have in my house asking me about

700
00:41:16,599 --> 00:41:20,020
making music for a handful of dollars.

701
00:41:20,020 --> 00:41:23,119
[Music]

702
00:41:24,359 --> 00:41:26,839
I made that film very willingly. there was

703
00:41:26,839 --> 00:41:30,440
an idea that I already have in mind and I have

704
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,800
developed this idea,

705
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,079
the whistle, the instruments that

706
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:38,119
they accompanied the whistle that they were

707
00:41:38,119 --> 00:41:40,760
all fancy instruments, not

708
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,160
it had nothing to do with it, all percussion

709
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,230
strange.

710
00:41:45,230 --> 00:41:48,369
[Music]

711
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,800
combination of instruments whistling and

712
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,599
electric guitar theme and western was

713
00:41:55,599 --> 00:41:57,960
unheard of and changed the music of the

714
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,520
world

715
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,880
the music almost sounded like

716
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,240
a bit of a carnival it sounds like the

717
00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:10,240
beach boys meet Eddie meets the wild west

718
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:12,840
recorded in a bathroom just wonderful

719
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,869
[Music]

720
00:42:16,839 --> 00:42:19,480
I think for all Sergio's films I have

721
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,480
changed

722
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,720
every time

723
00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:26,980
the physiognomy of music.

724
00:42:26,980 --> 00:42:29,800
[Applause]

725
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,920
The carigon in the second film was part

726
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,200
of the screenplay, of the story, however

727
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,160
Carillot was not always on stage.

728
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,839
When he recovered without the

729
00:42:41,839 --> 00:42:44,440
carison was on stage,

730
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,599
it became a thing

731
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:50,599
abstract.

732
00:42:52,650 --> 00:42:56,119
[Music]

733
00:42:58,990 --> 00:43:00,290
[Applause]

734
00:43:00,290 --> 00:43:03,719
[Music]

735
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,280
And so it was very important that this

736
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,440
physiognomy of sound assumed respect

737
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,680
to history as there was Walter West,

738
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,440
the harmonica that becomes

739
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,839
protagonist

740
00:43:35,290 --> 00:43:44,100
[Music]

741
00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:47,610
[Applause]

742
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,160
Lo and behold, he discovered

743
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,960
that when there is a tool that puts

744
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,680
of sounds in the reality of the image,

745
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,559
when we hear it again, when we

746
00:44:01,559 --> 00:44:04,599
tool is not in the picture,

747
00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:07,280
this instrument becomes an evocation

748
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,400
fundamental that collaborates with

749
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,280
meanings of the film.

750
00:44:14,730 --> 00:44:17,960
[Music]

751
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,920
This was an important one of his

752
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,010
found.

753
00:44:21,010 --> 00:44:30,800
[Music]

754
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,909
[Applauso]

755
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,480
The dips and the highs of the music and

756
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,559
the sound design uh very very unique and

757
00:44:41,559 --> 00:44:45,079
extremely dramatic.

758
00:44:47,839 --> 00:44:49,200
The different signatures and the

759
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,559
different melodies are actually almost

760
00:44:51,559 --> 00:44:54,620
like phrases of words.

761
00:44:54,620 --> 00:44:56,640
[Musica]

762
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,160
They actually um are portraying

763
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:05,040
information, not just emotions.

764
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,960
When those different rif sound or the

765
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,720
different lead instruments

766
00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:13,280
show up, they're in conversation with

767
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,400
the audience.

768
00:45:16,540 --> 00:45:31,630
[Musica]

769
00:45:35,319 --> 00:45:38,520
Moroni is absolutely the corriter of

770
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,359
Leon's movies because

771
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,400
you

772
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:50,319
Imagine them without Moraconi score.

773
00:46:04,030 --> 00:46:07,319
[Music]

774
00:46:07,319 --> 00:46:09,599
But it was a very kind thing to do

775
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:12,760
its because I didn't do the

776
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,480
I am a screenwriter. He certainly meant it

777
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,960
that the meaning of the music behind

778
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,400
the realistic images and sounds of the

779
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,960
movie meant quite how much

780
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,480
it could mean dialogue.

781
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,559
something else something more than

782
00:46:31,559 --> 00:46:34,280
dialogue, interpretation

783
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,359
abstract of words.

784
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,960
Hitcock

785
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,359
like Herman. Serious films they were

786
00:46:52,359 --> 00:46:54,839
so beautiful that they even held one

787
00:46:54,839 --> 00:46:59,280
inferior music to the ones I wrote.

788
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,000
>> Music is not part of the film,

789
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,599
interprets the film according to concepts

790
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:13,359
that the composer lends to the film. e

791
00:47:13,359 --> 00:47:17,000
director of course.

792
00:47:31,610 --> 00:47:38,089
[Music]

793
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,359
Because the thought of an actor, that

794
00:47:43,359 --> 00:47:45,680
which does not say, can be represented

795
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,900
from music.

796
00:47:47,900 --> 00:47:58,460
[Music]

797
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,400
So the look of an actor

798
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,280
motionless that he felt behind him or

799
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,530
something unbearable ahead of him.

800
00:48:13,530 --> 00:48:19,960
[Music]

801
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,160
he was full of suspicion,

802
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,760
memories

803
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,440
what terrible things or very things

804
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,560
simple. Yes.

805
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:49,200
[Music]

806
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,520
Mary Corner's music add to the character

807
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,520
more dimension and enhance the character

808
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,559
more psychology.

809
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,359
faced with reciting a certain thing

810
00:49:03,359 --> 00:49:06,319
particular emotional scene, if you will

811
00:49:06,319 --> 00:49:07,880
sentimental

812
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,200
and with music underneath, sometimes

813
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,799
they went out of their way and got me

814
00:49:13,799 --> 00:49:16,079
said "Look, we don't care

815
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:19,280
nothing about the direct drive, I keep it

816
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,520
the music below because this helps me

817
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,440
in particular, therefore this piece

818
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,400
we'll dub it later. Okay,

819
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,799
>> if there is music on set it happens

820
00:49:29,799 --> 00:49:32,400
something special, something

821
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,119
sacred. There is greater concentration

822
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:38,760
from everyone

823
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,400
and there is a harmony

824
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,559
higher than

825
00:49:45,559 --> 00:49:49,680
puts it together as best as possible

826
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,040
the product of everyone's work. This one

827
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,960
it's a particular scene that I shoot

828
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,720
all silent because it is as if seen by someone

829
00:49:56,720 --> 00:49:59,079
protagonist who then only reveals himself

830
00:49:59,079 --> 00:50:01,040
at the end at the end of this one

831
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,720
long tracking shot. Send a little less than

832
00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:04,559
smoke.

833
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:06,559
>> A little less mushroom

834
00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:09,559
>> engine

835
00:50:09,839 --> 00:50:13,640
281 before.

836
00:50:19,270 --> 00:50:26,079
[Music]

837
00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:28,040
The music this absolutely kind of

838
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,000
foregrounded central role.

839
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,000
Cortent

840
00:50:40,839 --> 00:50:43,720
and therefore perhaps Sergio Leone is also

841
00:50:43,720 --> 00:50:46,920
the last great silent filmmaker

842
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,079
however, he is the one who restores strength

843
00:50:49,079 --> 00:50:51,290
extraordinary to the images.

844
00:50:51,290 --> 00:51:10,240
[Music]

845
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:12,079
Sergio also worked a lot on the

846
00:51:12,079 --> 00:51:14,319
silence.

847
00:51:14,319 --> 00:51:16,920
On whose silence? Of the actors, of the

848
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,480
characters,

849
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,839
on the silence of seeing a scene.

850
00:51:21,839 --> 00:51:24,640
That silence is real and represented

851
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,319
from music. The music at that moment

852
00:51:27,319 --> 00:51:30,079
it represented itself in a way

853
00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:32,480
fundamental

854
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,040
for that scene and what it was

855
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,559
happened earlier in the movie and what

856
00:51:37,559 --> 00:51:40,040
it would happen later. So one

857
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,400
music that told the story of the past and

858
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,839
the future of the film.

859
00:52:05,490 --> 00:52:20,030
[Music]

860
00:52:22,690 --> 00:52:25,769
[Music]

861
00:52:32,799 --> 00:52:34,440
Definitely

862
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,400
my father paid great attention to

863
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,000
noises.

864
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,839
He obviously found in ennius not

865
00:52:40,839 --> 00:52:44,599
fertile ground, more.

866
00:52:44,599 --> 00:52:48,760
>> Here, even with irons. Good

867
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,000
>> Roberto De Nino. We are done with

868
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,640
these shoes here. It happens once in

869
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,799
America. I collaborated with Renato

870
00:52:54,799 --> 00:52:56,760
Marinelli who was Sergio's noisemaker

871
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,559
Leo. Once upon a time everything was done in

872
00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:00,680
room, today something about computers is more

873
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,000
easy because things are assembled,

874
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,640
instead before you had to do everything in the room and

875
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,880
you had to have a certain practicality.

876
00:53:09,810 --> 00:53:11,079
[Applause]

877
00:53:11,079 --> 00:53:13,040
Sergio Leone was a guy who seeing him was

878
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,880
grumpy, eh, but in the end he was

879
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,880
a great friend, he was funny and then he gave you

880
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,319
satisfaction because he believed in the work

881
00:53:21,319 --> 00:53:22,280
what were you doing.

882
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,079
>> When that comes in, let me

883
00:53:25,079 --> 00:53:26,960
under the noise of a horse in the way

884
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,559
to give me the presence of the horse,

885
00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:31,559
understood?

886
00:53:36,119 --> 00:53:39,240
It's the same.

887
00:53:39,740 --> 00:53:41,440
[Music]

888
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,240
Make it a little less jarring, eh,

889
00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:47,240
otherwise it's really annoying.

890
00:53:47,240 --> 00:53:51,520
>> I have always counted the noisemakers,

891
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,559
we were joking and I said tielli bassi i

892
00:53:55,559 --> 00:53:57,119
noises because the music must come

893
00:53:57,119 --> 00:53:59,960
out. This was our conversation

894
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:02,200
funny, cute.

895
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,640
>> Moricore was a character, then when

896
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,839
Upon entering the environment there was a certain

897
00:54:06,839 --> 00:54:09,200
confidence, understand? We were joking. One

898
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,160
Fausto turns while he was mixing

899
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,960
in agreement with Sergio Leone he changed his

900
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,920
music. Since you remember it so much, yes

901
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,319
he was asleep in the living room. Then slowly

902
00:54:18,319 --> 00:54:21,119
Fergio said changed and put the

903
00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:23,480
music by another another musician. A

904
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,799
that point woke up. What a lion that

905
00:54:25,799 --> 00:54:28,359
did it happen? That nothing that says no goes

906
00:54:28,359 --> 00:54:31,880
good that you didn't like it.

907
00:54:32,559 --> 00:54:34,680
So I Costone knew when

908
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,520
I've done the good, the bad and the

909
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,760
bad. So from there up there was one

910
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,359
once in America, I mixed them all for him

911
00:54:42,359 --> 00:54:45,040
how many.

912
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:50,000
Leone is creating his own revolution

913
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,920
expressive in its terrain.

914
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,599
Perhaps the highest example is the beginning of

915
00:54:55,599 --> 00:54:59,319
Once upon a time West.

916
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,960
Those long opening credits they have

917
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,280
made history.

918
00:55:09,799 --> 00:55:12,319
Mill loop and all that.

919
00:55:12,319 --> 00:55:14,079
And he had made the music there, not you

920
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:18,440
I say beautiful, you know?

921
00:55:19,319 --> 00:55:21,559
When we went to mix he wasn't there

922
00:55:21,559 --> 00:55:25,160
Eno. Then Fausti tells me,

923
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,319
Let's get this music off

924
00:55:27,319 --> 00:55:30,319
to Sergio e

925
00:55:30,319 --> 00:55:33,839
Let's get this music off.

926
00:55:33,839 --> 00:55:36,760
Those realistic sounds are not there

927
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,640
denial of Morricone's music,

928
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,559
they are the fruit of their intense

929
00:55:41,559 --> 00:55:44,520
collaboration.

930
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,319
>> When we did the mixing Moricone is

931
00:55:47,319 --> 00:55:48,799
came to see everything. At that time

932
00:55:48,799 --> 00:55:52,760
we leave, him telling him nothing.

933
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,720
Sergio,

934
00:55:56,720 --> 00:56:01,520
you made the most beautiful music there is.

935
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,079
It's not that I'm offended

936
00:56:06,420 --> 00:56:09,610
[Music]

937
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,400
after the cinema was for

938
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,280
70 years of the art of synthesis, therefore the

939
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,039
possibility of telling a story in 90 minutes

940
00:56:26,039 --> 00:56:29,000
a man's life, Leo has it

941
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:30,079
told

942
00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:34,200
how time can be suspended,

943
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:39,000
stretched, transformed, multiplied

944
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,799
and how cinema can also be art

945
00:56:42,799 --> 00:56:45,880
to tell the wait, to tell

946
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,000
that nothing is happening

947
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,559
and this thing belonged to the

948
00:56:51,559 --> 00:56:55,559
literature, but not cinema.

949
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,680
that of the fly trapped in the

950
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,359
gun. it was my idea, that is

951
00:57:00,359 --> 00:57:03,559
sure because I bragged about it a lot

952
00:57:03,559 --> 00:57:08,039
with Sergio as well afterwards.

953
00:57:12,260 --> 00:57:13,640
[Applause]

954
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,880
[Music]

955
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,559
you never feel the director's anguish

956
00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:25,280
editor who must necessarily

957
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,880
close a situation to give it

958
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,200
space for the next situation. No,

959
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,640
the story must breathe with its own

960
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,799
I breathe and you feel it. This is it

961
00:57:36,799 --> 00:57:40,319
special, it's new

962
00:57:40,319 --> 00:57:43,799
and it's perfect.

963
00:57:49,559 --> 00:57:51,480
Once upon a time in this is a film

964
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,680
authorial, that is, I proposed to say

965
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,720
just to tell first of all

966
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,960
through so a parable as he could

967
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,680
be a table, how could it be the

968
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,799
West to tell the birth of the

969
00:58:02,799 --> 00:58:06,520
American nation.

970
00:58:06,559 --> 00:58:08,200
Once upon a time in the west is Leo and

971
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,599
masterpiece. Everything came together.

972
00:58:10,599 --> 00:58:12,760
It's it is a western but it isn't. It's

973
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,240
an allergy for a certain form of cinema.

974
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,119
Once upon a time there was a young boy

975
00:58:17,119 --> 00:58:18,960
and trustovery who watched westerns.

976
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,559
Once upon a time there was the western

977
00:58:20,559 --> 00:58:23,839
genre before it lost its fairy tale

978
00:58:23,839 --> 00:58:26,520
quality. Once upon a time in history

979
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,119
there was that moment of the frontier

980
00:58:28,119 --> 00:58:30,400
which was overtaken by the arrival of

981
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,319
the railroads. So all these once upon a

982
00:58:32,319 --> 00:58:34,280
times, and why don't they make the

983
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,960
ultimate funeral request?

984
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:41,000
And so he brings together two characters

985
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,119
from the Italian new wave not his

986
00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:46,680
traditional script not vin Sergio at

987
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,760
that stage

988
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,799
who made one feature and contributed to

989
00:58:50,799 --> 00:58:53,880
some others and Dario Argento who a

990
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:59,640
critic for the Roman evening newspaper.

991
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,119
I was very young, of course

992
00:59:03,119 --> 00:59:05,960
I was a kid and for me he was a grown up

993
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:10,039
honor to hang out with Sergio Leone and together

994
00:59:10,039 --> 00:59:14,440
Bernardo, Sergio and I wrote this

995
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,440
this treatment which was then the basis

996
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,680
of the film.

997
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,480
We met at Sergio's house,

998
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,319
then later we start seeing each other one day

999
00:59:30,319 --> 00:59:33,119
at Bernardo's house and one day at home

1000
00:59:33,119 --> 00:59:35,480
mine. Well, this job takes a long time,

1001
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:39,720
lasted 23 months.

1002
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,119
The protagonist was a woman. He doesn't

1003
00:59:43,119 --> 00:59:45,760
had ever worked with in his films with

1004
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,920
women. I think it was because of this

1005
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,760
reason that took me, Bernardo,

1006
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,000
that we were very young, because he

1007
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,200
thought that the screenwriters of the time

1008
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,400
I didn't know that they were a certain age

1009
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,890
they knew femininity.

1010
01:00:01,890 --> 01:00:17,429
[Music]

1011
01:00:19,599 --> 01:00:23,440
I did the first part Bernardo, he did the

1012
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,839
second part and then after that we go together

1013
01:00:26,839 --> 01:00:30,079
with this nice pack of sheets of paper

1014
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:32,960
a copy shop.

1015
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,480
And this this woman began to

1016
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,480
write like this

1017
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,480
and while he wrote we were there

1018
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,760
wait because we wanted to take it away and

1019
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:47,000
he became passionate about this story.

1020
01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:49,559
Gli piacque tantissimo. Ogni tanto

1021
01:00:49,559 --> 01:00:51,440
diceva bellissima questa scena,

1022
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,280
bellissima. Ci entusiasmò questo fatto,

1023
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,680
veramente. Ci fu fu un momento

1024
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,680
importante.

1025
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,079
We care when the McBan family gets shot.

1026
01:01:16,079 --> 01:01:17,359
We remember it for the rest of the

1027
01:01:17,359 --> 01:01:20,359
movie.

1028
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:24,760
This is new toally only. It's a

1029
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,599
different kind of cinema, more interior.

1030
01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:28,960
And that starts with one more time in

1031
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,039
the west.

1032
01:01:33,010 --> 01:01:36,329
[Applauso]

1033
01:01:43,359 --> 01:01:46,640
Once the West is my favorite and uh it's

1034
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,039
interesting cuuse the first time I saw

1035
01:01:48,039 --> 01:01:51,079
it I really resisted it when I saw the

1036
01:01:51,079 --> 01:01:54,000
picture for the first time. I mean I was

1037
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,119
wound up completely and and Leon Leon's

1038
01:01:57,119 --> 01:02:02,240
film um felt quite distant from me.

1039
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,130
from the west as I

1040
01:02:04,130 --> 01:02:07,959
[Music]

1041
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,839
but Sergio took some actors a lot

1042
01:02:22,839 --> 01:02:27,079
famous at the time including precisely

1043
01:02:27,079 --> 01:02:28,839
excelled

1044
01:02:28,839 --> 01:02:30,319
in Rifonda

1045
01:02:30,319 --> 01:02:32,279
>> the best actor in the history of

1046
01:02:32,279 --> 01:02:35,599
Holivodian cinema.

1047
01:02:39,039 --> 01:02:41,240
And can I tell this anecdote? Him

1048
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,000
he came to Italy transformed

1049
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:45,839
completely another, that is, he had i

1050
01:02:45,839 --> 01:02:48,480
black hair, short shorts

1051
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,880
Spanish and even with glasses

1052
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,370
black contacts.

1053
01:02:54,370 --> 01:03:04,119
[Music]

1054
01:03:04,119 --> 01:03:07,039
left in its broth and of course

1055
01:03:07,039 --> 01:03:09,079
slowly, softly softly I

1056
01:03:09,079 --> 01:03:11,039
tried to postpone his entry into

1057
01:03:11,039 --> 01:03:14,039
scene and day by day I did it

1058
01:03:14,039 --> 01:03:16,520
take away something of this of this

1059
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,359
masking. Then finally before

1060
01:03:18,359 --> 01:03:20,760
go on stage, I told him "Enk, ma

1061
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,599
it won't be necessary to remove it too

1062
01:03:22,599 --> 01:03:25,839
these black contact lenses? they make you

1063
01:03:25,839 --> 01:03:28,359
this fixed, monotonous gaze,

1064
01:03:28,359 --> 01:03:30,000
etc. You who have these eyes

1065
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,240
wonderfully expressive, etc.,

1066
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:36,130
and he finally took them off.

1067
01:03:36,130 --> 01:03:45,429
[Music]

1068
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,960
I put the car in the back and almost to

1069
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,520
surprise by making a circular trolley

1070
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,279
I discovered this terrible thing underneath

1071
01:03:53,279 --> 01:03:55,279
murderer was hiding no less

1072
01:03:55,279 --> 01:03:56,310
what a recast.

1073
01:03:56,310 --> 01:04:11,960
[Music]

1074
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,440
And then he as a great actor and as

1075
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:19,920
consummate actor said Jesus Christ.

1076
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:29,960
Henry he using his characterization of

1077
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:33,640
to the audience.

1078
01:04:37,279 --> 01:04:39,359
Now that you called me by name, he's not

1079
01:04:39,359 --> 01:04:41,760
trying to get you to ignore the fact

1080
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,760
that Henry Fonda is the ultimate good

1081
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,640
guy. He wants you to come in with that.

1082
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,839
He wants to subvert you

1083
01:04:49,839 --> 01:04:51,880
by using that. He wants to blow your

1084
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,880
mind.

1085
01:04:55,620 --> 01:05:05,820
[Musica]

1086
01:05:05,839 --> 01:05:10,119
adorava John Ford, adorava tutti i

1087
01:05:10,119 --> 01:05:12,799
grandi miti del cinema western

1088
01:05:12,799 --> 01:05:16,599
americano, però poi sentiva di di avere

1089
01:05:16,599 --> 01:05:21,680
bisogno di raccontarli in un altro modo.

1090
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,799
got

1091
01:05:26,799 --> 01:05:28,720
always love Claudia Cardinal and the

1092
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,079
fact that Claudia Cardin was in Monument

1093
01:05:31,079 --> 01:05:34,000
Valley was uh very American very

1094
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,079
American that was a very Italian

1095
01:05:36,079 --> 01:05:38,640
American kind of mashup to bring her to

1096
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,680
Monument Valley that was audacious and

1097
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:41,240
wonderful

1098
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:53,820
[Musica]

1099
01:05:56,740 --> 01:06:10,180
[Musica]

1100
01:06:10,279 --> 01:06:13,920
Cosa? be a beautiful time

1101
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:15,720
and lions each in their own way

1102
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,000
understood the power of John Ford's

1103
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:21,240
films. They took the mythical aspect and

1104
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:24,559
they just twisted another direction

1105
01:06:24,559 --> 01:06:26,640
specifically towards capitalism,

1106
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:30,400
exploitation, oppression, war, you know,

1107
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,880
empire building.

1108
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,480
Let's say that I don't fight to impose laws

1109
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,359
my ideas to others, I fight

1110
01:06:44,359 --> 01:06:46,200
above all so as not to let myself be imposed

1111
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,400
those of others. Here is the show

1112
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,200
it must be a vehicle, a bicycle

1113
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,920
to get to make certain speeches that

1114
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,319
they interest us, but without taking

1115
01:06:55,319 --> 01:06:58,319
position, why take a position

1116
01:06:58,319 --> 01:07:01,960
it means advertising and I to myself

1117
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:03,640
this is a genre of cinema that I don't like

1118
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:06,160
like it.

1119
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:12,820
[Music]

1120
01:07:12,839 --> 01:07:14,640
They weren't easy films at all, they were

1121
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,880
very difficult films, even films

1122
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,319
politicians they were, there was a lot of thought

1123
01:07:19,319 --> 01:07:22,200
behind, there was very very very very

1124
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,960
a lot of effort.

1125
01:07:28,620 --> 01:07:32,050
[Applause]

1126
01:07:39,079 --> 01:07:43,880
would do that if I were you. Why?

1127
01:07:48,359 --> 01:07:49,799
There were a lot of pictures made at the

1128
01:07:49,799 --> 01:07:54,079
time uh the 60s had the anti-westerns. It

1129
01:07:54,079 --> 01:07:57,079
it was the time of uh the revision the

1130
01:07:57,079 --> 01:07:59,680
revision of the myth adopted the

1131
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,480
antimithic approach. Myths are bad.

1132
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,920
Here's the reality. Revolution please

1133
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:06,680
don't try to tell me about revolution. I

1134
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:08,000
know all about the revolutions and how

1135
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:09,640
they start. The people read the books,

1136
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:10,760
they go to the people that don't read

1137
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:12,640
the books. They put people and say, "Oh,

1138
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:16,640
the time has come to have a chance.

1139
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,960
Shit. I know what I'm talking about when

1140
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,679
I'm talking about the revolutions. So he

1141
01:08:21,679 --> 01:08:23,440
was very interested in making a film an

1142
01:08:23,440 --> 01:08:25,920
anti-revolutionary Mexican revolution

1143
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,199
film which basically shows how messy

1144
01:08:28,199 --> 01:08:29,880
revolution is and how in the end

1145
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:33,880
militarism tends to win.

1146
01:08:34,799 --> 01:08:37,359
People we have to have a chance people

1147
01:08:37,359 --> 01:08:40,000
make the ch and then the people the

1148
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,600
books they all around the big polish

1149
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:45,239
tabl and they and talk and talk and what

1150
01:08:45,239 --> 01:08:49,040
has happened to the few people.

1151
01:08:50,970 --> 01:08:54,359
[Music]

1152
01:08:54,359 --> 01:08:57,159
There too he addresses certain issues with the

1153
01:08:57,159 --> 01:08:59,839
his way of seeing, which is that of a

1154
01:08:59,839 --> 01:09:02,480
little boy who still remembers how to

1155
01:09:02,480 --> 01:09:04,480
played as children, but he already understood

1156
01:09:04,480 --> 01:09:06,719
what the world of adults will be like. Show

1157
01:09:06,719 --> 01:09:09,719
show.

1158
01:09:19,290 --> 01:09:47,189
[Music]

1159
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,550
ش

1160
01:09:54,550 --> 01:10:28,560
[Musica]

1161
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:32,199
a reference to the foss the caves a

1162
01:10:32,199 --> 01:10:34,679
famous massacre by the SS of Roman

1163
01:10:34,679 --> 01:10:36,960
civilians which happened when Leoni was

1164
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,880
12 or 13 years

1165
01:10:51,500 --> 01:10:54,890
[Musica]

1166
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,400
So he weaves his own hisory and theory

1167
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,900
that he lived through into these movies.

1168
01:11:07,900 --> 01:11:11,790
[Musica]

1169
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:15,679
It went down very badly with the left in

1170
01:11:15,679 --> 01:11:18,280
Italy. Uh, and a lot of people reviewed

1171
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,960
it very badly. But um

1172
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:22,560
as said, I don't agree with the

1173
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,880
politics, but it is a major work. In

1174
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:26,719
retrospect, it looks like the missing

1175
01:11:26,719 --> 01:11:28,320
piece of the jigsaw between once upon a

1176
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,159
time in the West and once upon a time in

1177
01:11:30,159 --> 01:11:32,719
America.

1178
01:11:38,159 --> 01:11:41,120
Fe 678.

1179
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,239
Io andai in America nel tentativo di

1180
01:11:43,239 --> 01:11:46,400
fare c'era una volta l'America. L'idea

1181
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,840
me l'ha porto dietro da tanto tempo.

1182
01:11:50,590 --> 01:12:25,000
[Musica]

1183
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,760
I was in can and I see on the terrace of

1184
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,679
the hotel somebody that looks like it

1185
01:12:31,679 --> 01:12:33,960
could be either Buddha and I know Buddha

1186
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:37,310
is dead so it's not him.

1187
01:12:37,310 --> 01:12:40,719
[Musica]

1188
01:12:40,719 --> 01:12:43,120
It could be Oron Wells, but I know I

1189
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,159
just had lunch with Orson Wells in Los

1190
01:12:45,159 --> 01:12:48,159
Angeles.

1191
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,560
Serged

1192
01:12:55,220 --> 01:13:00,840
[Musica]

1193
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,960
over I said, "Hi, my name is so I'm a

1194
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,280
big fan of yours. just want to shake

1195
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:09,480
your hands.

1196
01:13:09,719 --> 01:13:12,960
I said to him, I haven seen

1197
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:16,150
you movies for long time.

1198
01:13:16,150 --> 01:13:18,960
[Musica]

1199
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,159
And he'll tell you a secret. I've turned

1200
01:13:22,159 --> 01:13:23,760
down

1201
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:27,679
movies for the last 11 years

1202
01:13:27,679 --> 01:13:29,400
because there was only one thing I

1203
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,320
wanted to do. Something called one spon

1204
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,600
time in America. I said, "What is it

1205
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:34,960
about?

1206
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:36,719
And the moment I finished what is it

1207
01:13:36,719 --> 01:13:38,639
about?

1208
01:13:38,639 --> 01:13:42,120
I had a hours

1209
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:46,440
frame by frame description of the

1210
01:13:46,440 --> 01:13:50,159
stranger. Serg

1211
01:13:50,159 --> 01:13:52,840
the greatest and wow.

1212
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,320
>> Io sono molto testardo, molto tenace e

1213
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,400
faccio il cinema che amo fare, cioè devo

1214
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,080
amare visceralmente

1215
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:05,840
e dall'interno un film. 1971 and 1983

1216
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:07,639
he's trying to get that movie together

1217
01:14:07,639 --> 01:14:09,199
it must be a record in the history of

1218
01:14:09,199 --> 01:14:12,840
the movies you know

1219
01:14:15,199 --> 01:14:17,080
he becomes a major figure at Film

1220
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,360
Festival he's a regular there and he's

1221
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,280
part of the film culture but he'sing

1222
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,040
he's offered the godfather he turns it

1223
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,080
down

1224
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:29,199
now if people say to me is le

1225
01:14:29,199 --> 01:14:31,679
how many other filmmakers turn down the

1226
01:14:31,679 --> 01:14:34,880
godfather to make

1227
01:14:36,480 --> 01:14:38,520
[Musica]

1228
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:42,199
faites rien depuis 2 ans bloqué ça

1229
01:14:42,199 --> 01:14:44,520
there is one crois that all the public

1230
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:48,080
conna il était une fois oui c'est pour

1231
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:51,520
l'Amérique j'ai commencé le découpage et

1232
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:55,600
here are some books and sources of sorting

1233
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:59,040
et on va voir

1234
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,679
maybe 10 years, if not more. In short,

1235
01:15:03,679 --> 01:15:06,199
this was the focal point.

1236
01:15:06,199 --> 01:15:08,239
Consider that I remember him there

1237
01:15:08,239 --> 01:15:10,320
he was telling the film even before that

1238
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,760
had written it.

1239
01:15:14,159 --> 01:15:16,080
>> Dad, I think the script is there

1240
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:20,280
I've read it 100 times.

1241
01:15:21,199 --> 01:15:23,040
In the evening he came back and said "I've changed

1242
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,159
this, I did this." The movie yes

1243
01:15:25,159 --> 01:15:26,679
should have called first. There was another one there

1244
01:15:26,679 --> 01:15:28,520
America, then said that was a bit much

1245
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,520
presumptuous.

1246
01:15:35,639 --> 01:15:38,920
Serious head once upon a time

1247
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:43,760
in America in his.

1248
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,040
We experienced the joy of when

1249
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,840
finally this dream has begun

1250
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,159
to understand that it would come true,

1251
01:15:58,159 --> 01:16:00,520
so when Arnold Milson appeared

1252
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:05,159
in his life and in ours

1253
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,930
[Music]

1254
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:13,760
[Music]

1255
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,840
this goal

1256
01:16:17,610 --> 01:16:19,120
[Music]

1257
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,199
the story, let's say, that the continuation

1258
01:16:21,199 --> 01:16:23,400
ideal of a triptych and therefore the

1259
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,600
pretext of gangsterism, the pretext

1260
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:30,199
of American reminiscence

1261
01:16:30,199 --> 01:16:33,199
it's the excuse for a European of mine

1262
01:16:33,199 --> 01:16:36,040
training to tell an act of love

1263
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:40,080
that I have for American cinema.

1264
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:41,760
The subtitle of the film could be

1265
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:43,560
very well, once upon a time there was a certain guy

1266
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,280
of films.

1267
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:48,960
I like the last part when he's older.

1268
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:53,040
When my character is older

1269
01:16:56,239 --> 01:16:59,760
hours of making

1270
01:17:00,639 --> 01:17:05,120
it easily go through all that

1271
01:17:07,639 --> 01:17:09,639
>> the important thing will be the color,

1272
01:17:09,639 --> 01:17:11,199
>> I don't know the color. Here they are. These

1273
01:17:11,199 --> 01:17:14,000
they are the right tones, in my opinion. Brown.

1274
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:15,360
This beige,

1275
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,440
>> this is the Lyric theater we do

1276
01:17:17,440 --> 01:17:18,320
as it is.

1277
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:21,679
>> This North America is my father for the

1278
01:17:21,679 --> 01:17:24,000
his way of thinking big.

1279
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:25,520
>> Oh, this one instead, I want this one

1280
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:27,560
aerial orchestra. Look, this looks like it

1281
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:29,800
right out of Chiarino. a page

1282
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,040
of a storybook

1283
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:36,000
>> for his melancholy

1284
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:39,580
compared to the past.

1285
01:17:39,580 --> 01:17:43,290
[Music]

1286
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,080
In a way once upon a time in America is

1287
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,440
obviously one of the last pictures of

1288
01:18:00,440 --> 01:18:03,440
kind

1289
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,800
super production sweeping by you know

1290
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,239
great individual European in America.

1291
01:18:10,239 --> 01:18:13,120
You know I believe I was 11. And I know

1292
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,360
when we started making the movie I was

1293
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:20,070
11. I turned 12 while we were filming.

1294
01:18:20,070 --> 01:18:26,760
[Musica]

1295
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,040
I wasn't a kid that

1296
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:32,080
had aspirations really to be an actor. I

1297
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,320
wasn't a kid who was infactuated with

1298
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:37,800
movies or watched a lot of movies um or

1299
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,960
knew about cinema at all. It was a

1300
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,679
spectacular experience for me making the

1301
01:18:43,679 --> 01:18:46,000
movie. Um, but I didn't really know what

1302
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,430
I was getting into.

1303
01:18:48,430 --> 01:18:56,920
[Musica]

1304
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,840
What an amazing first experience to have

1305
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:01,880
watching him shoot scenes and thinking,

1306
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:03,320
"Wow, this is incredible. This is the

1307
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:06,280
way they make movies."

1308
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:09,639
just looking where he would put a

1309
01:19:09,639 --> 01:19:14,000
camera and the care and precision and

1310
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:15,800
thoughtfulness and consideration that

1311
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,400
went into everything.

1312
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,199
I'm not sure I'd be an actor if I hadn't

1313
01:19:21,199 --> 01:19:23,060
made that movie.

1314
01:19:23,060 --> 01:19:28,329
[Music]

1315
01:19:35,440 --> 01:19:38,239
The first scene he shot was there

1316
01:19:38,239 --> 01:19:41,159
so much tension, but within us

1317
01:19:41,159 --> 01:19:43,040
then because it was so many years for me it was

1318
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:48,040
like seeing it spin for the first time.

1319
01:19:48,480 --> 01:19:51,760
Dad was also very excited because

1320
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:55,199
he was finally able to start the

1321
01:19:55,199 --> 01:19:58,170
suo il suo grande sogno.

1322
01:19:58,170 --> 01:20:05,390
[Musica]

1323
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:13,800
Sergio had

1324
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:18,159
serious argument with Nero

1325
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:22,520
about a certain casting that we already

1326
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:27,199
committed to and I'm freaking out

1327
01:20:27,199 --> 01:20:29,400
put so much money already you know can't

1328
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:33,199
just drop out of and Sergio sitting like

1329
01:20:33,199 --> 01:20:35,560
that like Buddha

1330
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:37,520
and then he looks at him and he said

1331
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:42,280
well I tell you what this is not a movie

1332
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,199
Le mie

1333
01:20:48,679 --> 01:20:51,920
deal with you said go upstairs and all

1334
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,719
the tests we did and if you find a

1335
01:20:54,719 --> 01:20:58,639
better idea then I'll agree.

1336
01:20:58,639 --> 01:21:01,440
The went up and came down after couple

1337
01:21:01,440 --> 01:21:03,840
of hours said you know what I I agree.

1338
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:06,600
You're right. I was wrong. And from that

1339
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:09,920
moment on it was

1340
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,560
almost like father and son or bigger

1341
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:16,400
uncle they loved each other didn't

1342
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,840
impose on the actors this or that. He

1343
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,480
relied on you to do what you thought you

1344
01:21:21,480 --> 01:21:23,920
could do best in the way that it should

1345
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:25,520
be done according to you and then he

1346
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:28,400
give you direction of course but he was

1347
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:30,639
not somebody who made you feel pressure.

1348
01:21:30,639 --> 01:21:33,080
He was very smart about that with one

1349
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:36,080
way

1350
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:40,040
be

1351
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:41,800
it took forever. I think I worked on the

1352
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:44,280
movie almost a year

1353
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:46,120
and I used to feel that Sergio didn't

1354
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:49,580
want to let go of it.

1355
01:21:49,580 --> 01:21:58,159
[Musica]

1356
01:21:58,159 --> 01:22:00,159
He could never find a way he wanted to

1357
01:22:00,159 --> 01:22:02,600
introduce my coming into New York. The

1358
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:05,960
way I remember

1359
01:22:06,180 --> 01:22:09,629
[Musica]

1360
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:12,000
I said to myself and I might have said

1361
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:13,540
it to other people

1362
01:22:13,540 --> 01:22:14,679
[Musica]

1363
01:22:14,679 --> 01:22:16,320
I don't think Serg wants to finish the

1364
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:19,920
movie he's just keep going you know and

1365
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,440
the style and the way he wrote it and

1366
01:22:22,440 --> 01:22:26,040
and directed it it that that seemed to

1367
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:29,719
me what it was. I think that he put his

1368
01:22:29,719 --> 01:22:32,760
heart and soul into that movie and I

1369
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,330
think it's his best made picture.

1370
01:22:35,330 --> 01:22:48,450
[Musica]

1371
01:22:51,790 --> 01:23:13,729
[Musica]

1372
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:18,520
It's his most thought through films

1373
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:21,320
terms of uh time and distance of

1374
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:24,080
characters and characters aging and and

1375
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:25,280
you know two different sets of

1376
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:26,840
characters playing all the different

1377
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:28,600
roles at different age at different

1378
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:30,840
ages.

1379
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,640
Max

1380
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:48,840
[Musica]

1381
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,480
it was just on a vast canvas. It was his

1382
01:23:51,480 --> 01:23:53,440
most ambitious canvas I think he ever

1383
01:23:53,440 --> 01:23:56,880
painted on. He basically made a movie

1384
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,560
and he made it very nostalgically.

1385
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:01,600
But I was looking every single scene

1386
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,320
that was happening in his real time, I

1387
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,840
was sort of missing for those

1388
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:08,639
characters. I was feeling nostalgic

1389
01:24:08,639 --> 01:24:11,199
about those characters and about how

1390
01:24:11,199 --> 01:24:15,010
fast time goes by.

1391
01:24:15,010 --> 01:24:44,630
[Musica]

1392
01:24:46,679 --> 01:24:48,360
from a movie that was supposed to be

1393
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:51,800
shooting months into 11 month. He

1394
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:54,520
figured out how to say he we did not go

1395
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:58,159
over budget. He was as creative

1396
01:24:58,159 --> 01:25:00,960
as a producer actually as as a movie

1397
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,960
maker.

1398
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,360
I'm always impressed with a director who

1399
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,119
wants to tell a story even if I'm not to

1400
01:25:17,119 --> 01:25:20,080
take by certain things is that the

1401
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,080
feeling that they have it's a labor of

1402
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:25,560
love for them got to get it made

1403
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,199
that helps it become a special project

1404
01:25:28,199 --> 01:25:30,199
that will be memorable for years to

1405
01:25:30,199 --> 01:25:34,800
come. Come over here and sit down.

1406
01:25:44,940 --> 01:25:49,000
[Musica]

1407
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:55,679
Oh my god, I was I was terrified. It was

1408
01:25:55,679 --> 01:25:58,400
Yes, it was my first kiss

1409
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:02,520
and I was so scared. I was like dreading

1410
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,040
it.

1411
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:08,639
My beloved is white and ready. His skin

1412
01:26:08,639 --> 01:26:11,560
as the most fine gold.

1413
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:15,850
His cheeks are of spices

1414
01:26:15,850 --> 01:26:18,239
[Musica]

1415
01:26:18,239 --> 01:26:19,880
even though he hasn't washed since last

1416
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:23,520
December. I was terrified of the scene

1417
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:26,400
and you know looking back on it's the

1418
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:29,800
most chased kiss ever. It's so chased

1419
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:34,119
and simple and and yet it for me it was

1420
01:26:34,119 --> 01:26:37,570
this huge thing and

1421
01:26:37,570 --> 01:26:54,840
[Musica]

1422
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:57,239
somebody's there.

1423
01:26:57,239 --> 01:26:59,440
I just remember

1424
01:26:59,440 --> 01:27:02,360
Sergio being so

1425
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:06,639
loving about it and so I get it was so

1426
01:27:06,639 --> 01:27:10,719
sweet cuz he was like he was so paternal

1427
01:27:10,719 --> 01:27:12,840
and caring and protective and I remember

1428
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:15,679
him asking me like are you ok to do it

1429
01:27:15,679 --> 01:27:17,719
today? Are you ok to shoot the scene

1430
01:27:17,719 --> 01:27:18,840
today?

1431
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:20,440
We can do it another day if you don't

1432
01:27:20,440 --> 01:27:21,880
want to do it if you're not ready to do

1433
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:24,360
it. I mean,

1434
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:27,460
who does that?

1435
01:27:27,460 --> 01:27:43,270
[Musica]

1436
01:27:48,199 --> 01:27:51,199
But I think that smile represents his

1437
01:27:51,199 --> 01:27:52,440
childhood.

1438
01:27:52,440 --> 01:27:56,719
And the excitement of being a kid.

1439
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:04,040
I said to myself, either I am an idiot

1440
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:07,800
or I'm seeing one of the greatest film

1441
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:11,000
in history.

1442
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:13,639
The same time, first time we saw it was

1443
01:28:13,639 --> 01:28:15,800
4 hours and a half. So surger

1444
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,239
compromised to 4:15 and we ended up with

1445
01:28:18,239 --> 01:28:22,400
3 hours and 45 minutes.

1446
01:28:22,440 --> 01:28:24,440
So it was like you know if you want to

1447
01:28:24,440 --> 01:28:27,360
go down go down in flames you know like

1448
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,119
the Titanic

1449
01:28:29,119 --> 01:28:33,400
it's gna float or sink but it's not in

1450
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:36,480
the middle.

1451
01:28:38,630 --> 01:28:41,000
[Musica]

1452
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,400
>> I have never sought acclaim or recognition

1453
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:46,840
benevolence. of critics. It came with

1454
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:48,199
Ciolo once in America. Actually

1455
01:28:48,199 --> 01:28:52,119
he was most surprised of all

1456
01:28:52,119 --> 01:28:55,280
outcry of which he had received the

1457
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:58,040
screening of the film in Can.

1458
01:28:58,040 --> 01:28:59,560
His surprise when they were there

1459
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:01,840
those 15 minutes, 20 minutes of applause in

1460
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:04,800
room that never ended. I remember

1461
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:07,080
It's his look that I know, right?

1462
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:09,280
It went unnoticed by others,

1463
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:12,080
but actually for me it was

1464
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:13,920
incredibly

1465
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,920
exciting.

1466
01:29:17,679 --> 01:29:20,040
Then the criticisms the next day

1467
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:23,760
veramente fatto felice,

1468
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:25,679
però insomma poi come al solito, come

1469
01:29:25,679 --> 01:29:27,440
avrebbe fatto in un suo film, poi non è

1470
01:29:27,440 --> 01:29:31,480
non è finita tanto bene.

1471
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:38,320
all the management of Warner Brothers

1472
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,880
came and the company

1473
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:44,119
as this was over and I'm sitting at 2 in

1474
01:29:44,119 --> 01:29:46,119
the morning at the hotel I saw the

1475
01:29:46,119 --> 01:29:49,199
management of warners coming and said we

1476
01:29:49,199 --> 01:29:52,000
counseling the preview in Washington

1477
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:55,000
tomorrow and we're going to recut the

1478
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:56,679
movie and I said what do you mean you

1479
01:29:56,679 --> 01:30:00,360
cannot do it I control it I signed and

1480
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:03,320
it's true what Ser told me no more than

1481
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:06,679
2 hours and 45 minutes.

1482
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:14,000
This is the thing that worries me the most

1483
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,320
because to get to cut it to 2 hours

1484
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:18,480
and three quarters are forced to do a

1485
01:30:18,480 --> 01:30:20,400
new assembly, so it's not mine anymore

1486
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:23,400
movie.

1487
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:37,280
[Music]

1488
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:40,400
Sergio waited 11 years to make this movie.

1489
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:46,440
spend another years. I'm 15 years old

1490
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:51,010
all of nowhere.

1491
01:30:51,010 --> 01:30:54,149
[Music]

1492
01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:00,199
It was something that I think weighed on him

1493
01:31:00,199 --> 01:31:02,960
a lot. I think I had been to the

1494
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:05,520
his place. Maybe the curiosity to see

1495
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:07,239
I would have the havoc that was done

1496
01:31:07,239 --> 01:31:09,320
had. He never wanted to see her,

1497
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:11,800
so imagine how much how much there is

1498
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:13,320
I was disappointed, because that was it anyway

1499
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:17,000
his creature.

1500
01:31:20,290 --> 01:31:40,560
[Music]

1501
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:42,560
He got hold of a book by Harrison

1502
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:44,760
Salsbury about the siege of Leningrad

1503
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:47,840
between 1941 and 1944 the 900 days and

1504
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:50,280
he wants to

1505
01:31:52,239 --> 01:31:54,199
I remember we go to Leningrad where

1506
01:31:54,199 --> 01:31:56,960
he basically narrated the whole film.

1507
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:58,480
In fact there was a written page

1508
01:31:58,480 --> 01:32:00,159
Leningrad. He had the whole movie in it

1509
01:32:00,159 --> 01:32:03,159
head.

1510
01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:09,400
[Music]

1511
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:11,000
The camera comes out through the lace

1512
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:13,040
curtains of course and there's a river

1513
01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:15,000
and there's all these river activity. It

1514
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:16,639
goes across the river and there's lines

1515
01:32:16,639 --> 01:32:18,639
and lines of pansa tanks. You go up to

1516
01:32:18,639 --> 01:32:20,639
the tanks, the camera shows you all

1517
01:32:20,639 --> 01:32:22,440
these tanks, it goes up to the tank

1518
01:32:22,440 --> 01:32:24,719
commander. It goes up to the left eye of

1519
01:32:24,719 --> 01:32:29,480
the tank commander and he says, "Fire."

1520
01:32:32,140 --> 01:32:37,639
[Music]

1521
01:32:37,639 --> 01:32:41,080
he had thought of De Nero and Tonino was there,

1522
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:42,520
about his collaborators,

1523
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:44,760
Tonino Dellicolli who repeated to him "But

1524
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:46,880
do you know why he stammered? You know it

1525
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:48,600
that you and I are going to die in

1526
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:50,990
Russia, right?

1527
01:32:50,990 --> 01:32:53,480
[Music]

1528
01:32:53,480 --> 01:32:56,320
-40° will be bitterly cold. Then you that

1529
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:57,960
you're sick in the trenches, but not

1530
01:32:57,960 --> 01:32:59,320
we could have gone, we can't do a

1531
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:01,840
beautiful mystery set in Paris in

1532
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:04,040
theater, we can't do it, we are

1533
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:07,040
elderly.

1534
01:33:09,199 --> 01:33:10,719
He always told me what he wanted to do

1535
01:33:10,719 --> 01:33:16,760
this movie. I asked him every now and then

1536
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:18,480
The script is ready to make me

1537
01:33:18,480 --> 01:33:21,560
read. He said, "I didn't do it."

1538
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:24,040
he always told me this, that he

1539
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:27,880
he knew he couldn't do it.

1540
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:30,880
Wait.

1541
01:33:36,220 --> 01:33:46,180
[Music]

1542
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:02,280
I've learned from the grandeur and

1543
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:03,760
I've learned from his crane shots and

1544
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:05,960
I've learned from his whole cinematic

1545
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:07,960
technique and his editing rhythms. Yeah,

1546
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:10,440
I've learn I've learned and taken as

1547
01:34:10,440 --> 01:34:12,020
much as I can take.

1548
01:34:12,020 --> 01:34:14,360
[Musica]

1549
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:16,679
Certain part of our of our job more like

1550
01:34:16,679 --> 01:34:19,159
being a mechanic and using the old tools

1551
01:34:19,159 --> 01:34:21,440
that have been around and and finding

1552
01:34:21,440 --> 01:34:24,320
ways to inject our own thinking and our

1553
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:27,080
own personalities to them. And so I

1554
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:30,840
would study Leoni and learn how to well

1555
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:32,400
I would basically try my best to come up

1556
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:35,960
with new machines.

1557
01:34:36,620 --> 01:34:43,150
[Musica]

1558
01:34:44,159 --> 01:34:45,880
The way he brings all the departments

1559
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:50,679
together into one great au you know so

1560
01:34:50,679 --> 01:34:54,119
finally tuned to the complex emotions

1561
01:34:54,119 --> 01:34:56,040
playing out in front of you. just an

1562
01:34:56,040 --> 01:35:00,199
inspiration to watch all the time.

1563
01:35:02,719 --> 01:35:03,760
Certain things that just come to mind

1564
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:05,320
immediately with his films, they don't

1565
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:08,639
feel dated to a specific era to me, I

1566
01:35:08,639 --> 01:35:10,480
think. So, I feel like they feel just as

1567
01:35:10,480 --> 01:35:12,320
fresh as they did when they came out and

1568
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:13,480
theoretically they're going to continue

1569
01:35:13,480 --> 01:35:15,520
to feel just as fresh, you know, decades

1570
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:17,159
and generations from now. I think he

1571
01:35:17,159 --> 01:35:19,280
seems to be contemporary and a lot has

1572
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:25,960
to do with modernism and iron modernism.

1573
01:35:30,639 --> 01:35:32,760
Come andare in una galleria d'arte e

1574
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:36,320
vedere dei quadri di un di un di un

1575
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:38,480
artista che è stato rivoluzionario e

1576
01:35:38,480 --> 01:35:41,520
rimane là incantato.

1577
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:45,400
Just as you could see Kurasawa in Leone,

1578
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:48,719
you can see Leoni in Star Wars and and

1579
01:35:48,719 --> 01:35:50,600
you know that's the proper pression of

1580
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:53,880
art form.

1581
01:35:57,600 --> 01:35:59,520
I would have loved to have been able to

1582
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:01,960
spend some time with him

1583
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:05,520
as a grown up.

1584
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:07,760
No one's ever made movies like him

1585
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:10,960
before or after.

1586
01:36:18,490 --> 01:36:20,360
[Musica]

1587
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:24,320
It's been about 8 years since the first time

1588
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:28,239
that I came to Italy as young people

1589
01:36:28,239 --> 01:36:31,920
actor with another so young

1590
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:37,000
director Sergio Leonni. That wind is

1591
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:40,280
It was a positive turning point for both of us

1592
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:46,760
our careers. Thanks so much Sergio.

1593
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:48,500
Lions foron.

1594
01:36:48,500 --> 01:36:55,639
[Music]

1595
01:36:55,639 --> 01:36:59,239
Sergio was here

1596
01:36:59,239 --> 01:37:01,550
thanks for the memory

1597
01:37:01,550 --> 01:37:16,920
[Music]

1598
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:18,639
>> well in the meantime the director is missing, but not only that

1599
01:37:18,639 --> 01:37:21,159
I, the whole world, am missing one

1600
01:37:21,159 --> 01:37:24,679
person who looked for the best in me,

1601
01:37:24,679 --> 01:37:27,650
knowing that I could give it.

1602
01:37:27,650 --> 01:37:29,840
[Music]

1603
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:31,440
If you had Sergio here, what would he do?

1604
01:37:31,440 --> 01:37:33,000
would you say?

1605
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:36,080
>> Personally, how much have I missed you?

1606
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:38,560
Just this.

1607
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:40,360
[Music]

1608
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:43,360
>> Come back.

1609
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:45,639
>> I would like to say thank you, damn you.

1610
01:37:45,639 --> 01:37:49,119
Wait, I'll recover.

1611
01:37:49,119 --> 01:37:50,360
He has it

1612
01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:53,860
>> how many do I know? 35 years old.

1613
01:37:53,860 --> 01:38:02,369
[Music]

1614
01:38:16,910 --> 01:38:23,000
[Music]

1615
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:26,400
which seems like a flower here dancing

1616
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:28,910
over the temps.

1617
01:38:28,910 --> 01:38:30,199
[Music]

1618
01:38:30,199 --> 01:38:32,080
important

1619
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:35,520
c'est la rose

1620
01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:39,360
c'est la rose

1621
01:38:39,719 --> 01:38:43,119
c'est la rose

1622
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:47,199
the important

1623
01:38:47,199 --> 01:38:50,679
c'est la rose

1624
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:54,800
c'est la rose l'important

1625
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:57,000
c'est la rose

1626
01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:59,239
crois

1627
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:06,250
[Music]

1628
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:15,859
[Music]

1629
01:39:22,510 --> 01:39:29,789
[Music]

1630
01:39:32,750 --> 01:39:47,169
[Music]

1631
01:39:50,740 --> 01:40:13,450
[Music]

1632
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:31,380
[Music]

1633
01:40:35,960 --> 01:41:14,439
[Music]

1634
01:41:23,150 --> 01:41:42,640
[Music]

1635
01:41:45,740 --> 01:42:25,850
[Music]

1636
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:28,520
There's a scene in Django we did an

1637
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:31,679
extreme close up on the snowman's face

1638
01:42:31,679 --> 01:42:33,880
and when we finished the gaffer came

1639
01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:38,840
over and just like a Sergio on a snowman

1640
01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:43,040
that's practically disrespectful

1641
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:44,400
like an extreme closeup that's what it

1642
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:46,520
is it's a Sergio. Everyone on the crew

1643
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:49,000
knows what a Sergio is. I mean everybody

1644
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:52,280
on the crew.

1645
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:57,299
[Musica]